Thursday, 5 March 2015

"Boeing"MH 17 was hit by Ukraine



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In the Netherlands, the model is composed of fragments of the "Boeing" crashed in Donetsk. From the photographs of debris from the crash site, one can make a rough reconstruction of the airframe. Among the photos there are at least two that refute the version of the attack aircraft by the  "Buk"complex.
In one photo there is an object resembling a rod of aviation R-60M, and in the other photo - a round hole in the air intake of the right engine. There are at least nine hole plating which characterize the action of a missile "air-to-air."
Already in the coming week on the 3rd, the 5th and the 6th of March 2015 nearly five thousand people - relatives and friends of "Boeing" victims – will be able to see the model of Boeing 777 Malaysian airlines at the airbase Gilze-Riyen in Holland, collected from the wreckage of the aircraft. The last large fragments, the whole truck of them are still in the Peter and Paul Fortress - Dutch journalists were able to get to them only on February 22 2015.
The greatest attention is immediately attracted by the left side of the cockpit, where the plane had a large amount of damage. The biggest hole in the center of the fragment has torn edges, curved outwards, which is typical for an explosion inside or decompression due to a sharp drop in pressure.

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Further, in the photo, we see more than 20 large round holes, which were also found on the left side of the cabin and the glass frames.
Sheathing material the most dense in the cabin - it is made of reinforced aluminum (according to other sources titanium plates), fitted in two layers in order to prevent damage to the aircraft when a possible collision with a bird.
According to some reports, the thickness of a single layer sheet - 1.8 mm, the other layer - 0.8 mm. We also know that most of the thickness of the fuselage skin of "Boeing" -777 - only 2 mm (0.09 inches). When zooming the photos we see a lot of small marks - "craters" and black soot stains on the outside of the cabin and the curved to the outside outer skin edges.
This indicates that the striking shell exploded in the vicinity of the aircraft skin. According to some estimates, the distance from the cockpit to the epicenter of the explosion could be as little as 50 cm to 4.5 m. While the radius of the affected area by "BUK" is 17 m, the rocket explodes in front of and above the target, making the hill, and creates a large cloud of six thousand fragments.
Quote from mh17webtalks: detonation products left countless tracks on fragments of the cockpit. They lose their ability to cause mechanical damage (lose kinetic energy) at a distance from the point of the explosionsequal to 15 ... 20 radiuses of (BB shashka). Accordingly, with a radius of 10 ... 15 cm, it is - 1.5 ... 3.0m, From the beginning of the explosion the blast wave runs forward, followed by hot gases, and then, by fragments. But gas is rapidly inhibited, so its traces can be found only near the site of the explosion.
If the range of undermining "BUK" does not coincide with image, perhaps it fits according to the size of the holes? To find the diameter of the holes in the casing of the cabin, we need to know the diameter of the cap standard aircraft rivets. It is equal to 0.488 inches, or 11 mm.
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Соотнеся параметры, получим ширину пробоин 20-30 мм. Диаметр округлых отверстий в обшивке кабины в размере 2-3 диаметров шляпки авиационной заклепки.
Correlating parameters, we obtain a width of 20-30 mm holes. The diameter of the circular openings in the casing equal to 2-3 diameters aviation rivets heads.
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In the first photo a few holes have barely visible yellow-red edges - perhaps a trace of copper shell of projectile.
 (The introduction of the bullet into the target it leaves the particles on the hole while pushing the material obstacles forward and moving it).
However, in the fission "BUK" there is no copper, however it is present on equipment of air guns.
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Here you can clearly see tape armor-piercing and high-explosive charges in aircraft guns, missile elements of cylindrical shape.
How the cannons GS-30 shoots
Apart from a few tens of round and oval holes in the front of the "Boeing" there are at least five holes which have rectangular and square shapes. However, none of them hit casing directly from the outside, therefore their size is difficult to determine. But we are talking about the size of more than 1 cm.
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However, in the Description of the rocket "air-to-air" P-60, for example, there is a reference to the presence of ready cubes weighing 2-3 g in the shirt of a racket, in addition to fragmentation rods. Attention is also drawn to the lining of the side of the cockpit. Charge of high-explosive fragmentation warhead can enter in a variety of surfaces of the "Boeing" at different angles. Depending on this shape of the hole will change, round shape (in contact with the spherical member at a right angle) to an oblong (acute angle). Here's how it looks in contact with the metal of a simple cartridge.
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Perhaps this explains the presence different size holes on one of the pieces of skin on the side of the cockpit.
 Comparing with heads of rivets, the size of these holes ranges from 3 cm to 10 cm in length. The angle of the shards can be equal to 25-30 degrees.
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How the "BUK" shoots. Rocket 9M38M1 used in complexes "BUK -M1", consists of a high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 70 kg 9N314. In its foundation 32 kg of sub munitions are included (4500 items weighing 8 g in the form of an I-beam (average between the letters H and X) and 1500 cubes weighing 4 gdvytavr169948_900
On a web there is a photo of one of the missile combat units..Shards-Beams - 13 mm. The diameter of the dice is less than 10 mm.
78617_600600px-SA-11-Warhead-1If for the attack on the "Boeing" this type of rocket "Earth-Air" was used, the majority of shrapnel holes had to leave characteristic traces of rectangular shape (I-beams have better penetrating power than cubes).
One of the users of "LiveJournal" conducted an experiment – this is the kind of traces had to be left by "BUK" in the skin of "Boeing" if at least some fragments of 4500 flew into it at an angle close to right angle.
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A detailed description of the experiment HERE.
 There are no similar holes with a similar size found on the wreckage of the "Boeing". According to the author of the experiment, debris flying at a speed of 1200 ms, should leave a clearer footprint on the thin material of the fuselage than in the casing with a reinforced aluminum layer of the cabin. Adjusted for the high-explosive charge and the defeat angle fragments of The Buk can leave traces of diameter 18-20 mm in the skin of the aircraft. Read more about the real dimensions of the holes left by high-explosive shells.
What it looks like the aircraft fired from the "Buk"? The network has photos of the wreckage of three aircraft shot down over the last 15 years, presumably because of anti-aircraft missile systems "Buk". In all cases, the crew remained alive for some time after the missile strike.
In all cases, the aircraft skin looks about the same - a lot of small round or slotted holes. Read more here.
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The wreckage of the AN-26 shot down in Ukraine July 14, 2014 at an altitude of 6500 m.
It is a fact that June 29, 2014 militia seized the military unit 1402 in Donetsk, where there was a faulty installation of a "BUK", however, while representatives of the DNR stated that they were not going to fix it.
It is known for example that the existing arsenal of Ukraine complexes "Wasp" is also able to achieve goals like the AN-26 or Su-25 at an altitude of 6000 m.
Holes in the shape of rods. One of the rods is found
We see in the ruins at least three cutting holes: on the left wing, near the second door on the left, on the elements of the tail section.For example, a hole in the casing adjacent the second left door has a length of about 10 cm.
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The floor in a cabin next to second door on the left
Next to this hole we can find an elongated element that looks like a piece of rod warhead aircraft missiles "air-to-air" P-60M. Original photo
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Sheathing the bottom of the fuselage near the second left door Source
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On the Left -  Rod warhead on Ukrainian fighter planes (Source).
To the right: a missile part of R-60
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SUMMARY: The Su-25M1, R-60M Material rod warhead - an alloy of zirconium and molybdenum / tungsten. Battle part of the relatively low power, mostly efficient in penetrating into the structure of the aircraft target. Blaster – no contact radio controlled fuses "Hummingbird" (developed in 1971) and contact backup. Radius of radio controlled fuses tripping - 5 m. The radius of destruction - 2.5 m. Source
Here is a description of warhead R-60M (62M product). It differs from classic long thin arrow-shaped rods, export version is a set of "pseudorods." Submunitions are made of heavier tungsten. "Gush striking elements of tungsten, twice heavier than alloy steel, cut the power and set the wing or the airframe and engines," - said in the description of the warhead R-60M.V some sources indicate weight of rods - 3 years Weight of a warhead - 3 kg. Laying of rods made in the body with a triangular trim - rods, probably have a triangular cross-section: "The space between the shell and core of the GGE filled with TNT having pyramidal recess next to each housing a semi-damaging elements ... Pieces of weight 3g, accelerate to a speed of 7,5km/s. (Source)
Rod warhead R-60M (62M) with tungsten rods, stacked perpendicular, leaves not linear, but the huge delta, or diamond-shaped holes.
Only the P-62 were exported, and since the 1980 P-62M were exported, 70% of both missiles had fragmentation (or "pseudorod") rather than a rod warhead.  Source  
Large incoming delta-torn holes we found, for example, the right side in the casing of the second cabin. On one of them there is a visible trace of soot. In addition, two of these holes can be seen in the floor of the front luggage compartment near the cockpit. Six delta and diamond-shaped holes:
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And three cutting holes on the left wing and the lower portion of the plane skin adjacent to the second left door:
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Shape of the holes coincide with lesions of the Battle part of the P-60M, installed on the Su-25M1, the missile could be induced on the engine of the "Boeing", but explode at 5 m away from it, including near the left wing and the floor at Exit L2 - where two typical rod holes were found.
Ukrainian Production Association "Arsenal" was modernizing missiles. Rockets was established almost all aspect infrared guidance system OGS-75T "Mosquito-M". (Increase angle to 2/4 or even 1/4 (possibility of starting in the forward hemisphere purpose bearing at a certain angle) provided by the cooling of the photodetector GOS. Series production was carried out NPK "Progress" (Kiev, source). The angle of targeting - Sector 34 degrees. The rate of displacement of the goal is maximum - 35 deg / s).
It is also possible that after activation of a lifting charge at maximum proximity to the "Boeing" the warhead opened, and the racket P-60 hit the inside lining "Boeing" in the area near the landing gear motors.
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How they killed the "Boeing" MH17
From the latest reply of MH17 crew until the loss of communication with the aircraft it took only seven seconds. The crew did not have time to inform the traffic controllers of any threatening situation (if you believe in the authenticity of the "lost" recordings from air traffic control in Dnepropetrovsk), which means that events in the cockpit developed rapidly.
The "Boeing" has turned and abruptly lost speed - from 900 to 400 km.h km.ch. continued to float from the height of 10 thousand meters to a height of about 2 thousand meters. Residents of Grabovo and Torez heard two very loud bangs in the sky. Descended below the clouds, "Boeing" began to crumble - closest to the place of the accident a big piece of the fuselage has landed. A part of the business class cabin and the second economy class were found in Petropavlosk.
Nearby in Raasipnoe a loose cockpit was found, and the bodies of more than 40 people. The tail and the central part of the fuselage with the landing gear and wings flew the farthest - in the village Grabovo. From July 2014 to February 2015 the majority of Boeing debris have been found.
The right wing is missing as well as the right side of the business class and the nose of the "Boeing". Until now three passengers of the aircraft are not identified. Altogether 298 people were on board. In the body of the pilot, according to the Malaysian press, metal fragments were found.
Overall, 25 metal objects that caused the suspicion of investigators were found. Most of damage was caused to the left side of a cabin, cabin floor sheathing, numerous holes are visible in the area of the commanders chair, a few holes - in the copilot's seat. At least four holes are visible in the body of the commander. All these holes are rounded.
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The backrest of the second pilot - the numerous holes in the side and back can be found.
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Given the remnants of soot and many small black dots- traces the impact of the detonation products, a missile unloaded - outside the cockpit at a close range.
Given the height of flight - 10 thousand meters the cabin could be reached only either by anti-aircraft missile system (C300, "CBO") or by a missile "air-to-air".
And since there are no traces on the cockpit from the impact of rod submunitions, but a lot of round holes with jagged edges – it is caused by the explosion by the high-explosive shells. Such shells with rounded striking elements are used in cannons GS-30 and also typical for the missiles of "ground-to-air" S-200 and S-300.
As in the wreckage of "Boeing" there are no cross-like traces - the predominant elements of BUK missiles, and the explosion occurred at a distance of not more than 5 m, the version of the BUK application can be rejected. C200 complexes in Ukraine are "idle" since 2001, no one recorded launching missiles C300 in the area.
ATTACK OF THE BOENG ON THE RIGHT "IN PURSUIT"
So there was a version of a plane or two Su-25M1 - upgraded with stormtroopers. The planes were a part of Ukranian arsenal. At the time of the tragedy the Ukrainian Air Force had five such aircrafts- one of six Su-25M1 Ukrainian was shot down the day before the "Boeing" accident.
In addition to the discovered in the wreckage of a rod like object of P-60M this version is supported by the chip found in the right engine of the air intake piece of the "Boeing".
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The chip is lying inverted "upside down" - on the left edge a piece of torn inner lining is visible, and the right side - outside, with subtle logo letters RR. If the piece is flipped, it will be the upper part of the right engine air intake.
This is a small hole found on the right engine of the "Boeing" according to the authoritative source Wall Street Journal. Edge of the hole hollowed out, in which case the fragment struck the air intake, having arrived from the tail. There is another piece of the engine - the rim of the turbine with the traces of incoming holes, but to which of the engines it belongs, it is impossible to tell from the photos. It is known that the chip was found in the vicinity of Petropavlovsl, where right inlet was lying. However, the left door was found here, located in front of the left engine.
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If it is really a piece of the right engine, it means that the shootings were carried out from the air cannons rear right, and then right across the board side and the right engine to the cockpit. Most likely, the shots were fired at close range (about 500-700 m).
The right part of the skin "Boeing" between the cab and the second right door is not found (in any case, its photographs in the public domain are absent). WSJ photographed the debris of baggage shelves on the right side of the business class, and at the air base of the Gilze-Riyen journalists were banned from approaching it. The wreckage of a business class was covered by glued squares as objects related to the investigation.
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CONCLUSION: The Malaysian Boeing has suffered a combined blow by Su-25 M1. The first firing of the Su-25M1 was conducted on the flight path "Boeing" in pursuit - most likely, the fighter jet was on the right side from the tail of the aircraft and it shot while moving in the direction of the right side engine, - in this direction fighter jet fired several shots from cannons caliber 23mm or 30mm .
After the first firing pilots died and there was a massive decompression in the cabin – electronics went out of service, the aircraft spun to the left, and "Boeing" was probably attacked again, now on the left side - in the cockpit area from side of the commander of the crew by a rocket P-60M in the area of ​​the left engine and the left door,  which have traces of the destruction by stem fragments.